Russia now says
they have a secret witness which proves that it was Ukraine and not pro-Russian rebels who shot down
Malaysian Airlines MH17.
A man who was at an airfield in the Ukrainian city
of Dnipropetrovsk has come forward
prepared to give evidence that he saw a Ukrainian military Sukhoi-25 jet take
off on 17 July with air to air rockets and return without them.
Here is the interview in full.
"Where were you July 17,
2014, the day when the Malaysian Boeing was shot down?"
"I was on the territory
of Ukraine in Dnepropetrovsk, in Aviatorskoe village. There's a common airport
there. Fighters and helicopters were based there. The planes would regularly go
on sorties, Su-25 fighter jets would
bomb Donetsk and Luhansk."
Did the planes fly
operationally every day?"
"They did, every
day."
"Why do you suggest that
these planes could be related to the crash of the Boeing?"
"For several reasons. Out
of eight planes that were based there, only two were outfitted with air-to-air
missiles. The missiles were mounted on those two planes."
"Why? Were there battles
in the air?"
"No, the missiles were
mounted on the aircraft to cover them up in the air, just in case. Basically,
the planes were armed with ammunition for ground operations, such as unguided
missiles and bombs."
"Tell us about July
17th."
"The planes were flying
regularly that day. They were flying the whole day, since early morning. In the
afternoon, about an hour before the Boeing was shot down, three
strike fighters took off for a mission. I do not remember the time exactly. One
of the aircraft was equipped with such missiles. It was a Su-25."
"Did you personally see
that?"
"Yes, I did."
"Where was your
observation point?"
"On the territory. I
won't say specifically."
"Did you have a chance to
see what was being suspended to the pylons of the aircraft? Could you be
confused between air-to-air and ground-to-air missiles?"
"No, I could not mix them
up. They vary in size, fin assembly, colouration and the guiding head. It is
very easy to identify them. In general, after a while, only one plane returned,
two others were shot down, somewhere in the east of Ukraine, so I was
told. One plane returned, on which those missiles were suspended."
"Did it return without
the missiles?"
"Without missiles. The
pilot was very scared."
"Are you familiar with
that pilot, have you ever seen him?"
"Yes."
"Can you say what his
name is?"
"His last name is Voloshin."
"Was he alone in the
plane?'
"Yes, he was. The
aircraft is designed for one person."
"Do you know his
name?"
"Vladislav, I think. I
can not say for sure. He's a captain."
"So Captain Voloshin returned.
Next?"
"He returned without
ammunition."
"The missiles were
gone?"
"Yes."
"So the plane returned
from a mission, you were not aware about the crash of the Boeing yet, but you
were somehow surprised with the absence of air-to-air missiles.. How come?"
"Those missiles are not
included in the basic ammunition. They can be suspended on a plane following a
special order. As a rule, they tried not to fly aircraft with those missiles,
because one cannot move such missiles in the air just like that. It's possible
to hang only two such missiles on this plane. They have never been used before.
They had been decommissioned. However, a week before the crash of the Boeing,
the use of those missiles was urgently extended. The missiles had not been used
for many years."
"Why?"
"Their resource expired.
They are of the Soviet production."
"Did they hang them on
the plane that day?"
"They were all the time
with those missiles."
"But they did not
fly?"
"They tried not to, as
every flight reduces resource. Yet, the plane took off that day."
"And it returned without
them?"
"Yes. As long as I know
the pilot a little ... it is quite possible that when two aircraft were shot
down before his eyes, he simply showed a frightened, inadequate reaction. He
could launch the missiles at the Boeing out of fright or for revenge. Maybe, he
took it for some other combat aircraft."
"Were they the missiles
with homing heads?"
"Yes."
"Do they search for the
target themselves?"
"No. It is the pilot who
sets the target. Then he launches a missile, and it flies to the target."
"What else do you
remember from that day? What did the pilot say?"
"The phrase that he said
when he was taken off the plane: "Wrong plane." And in the evening,
there was a phrase that he said answering a question from another pilot, who
asked Voloshin: "What happened to the plane?" To which he replied:
"The plane was in the wrong place at the wrong time."
"Was the pilot serving
there for long? How old is he?"
"Voloshin is about 30
years. His unit is based in Nikolaev. They were sent to Dnepropetrovsk. Before
that, he had been to Chuguev, near Kharkov. They were bombing Donetsk and
Luhansk during all that time. And, according to a serviceman from the unit in
Nikolaev, they still continue to do it."
"Did the pilots have good
combat experience?"
"Those who were there
they were experienced. The Nikolaev unit was the best unit in Ukraine in 2013,
I think."
"Did Pilots try to
discuss the story of the Boeing?"
"All attempts to discuss
it would be immediately suppressed. The pilots, they would interact with each
other, and they were so ... proud."
"What happened to this
pilot, Captain Voloshin, after they learned about the Boeing?"
'They continued the sorties.
The pilots were the same."
"Let's try to simulate
events. How could they develop? Three aircraft flew on a combat mission. They
found themselves in the zone, in which the passenger Boeing was
flying. Two aircraft were shot down. Captain Voloshin got nervous and scared,
and perhaps he took the Boeing for a combat aircraft?"
"Maybe. The distance was
large, so he could not see what kind of plane it was exactly."
"From what distance can
those missiles be launched?"
"From about 3-5 km, they
can set a target."
"What about the speed
difference between a combat aircraft and a Boeing?
"It doesn't matter: a
missile has a pretty good speed. A plane can - at its maximum altitude of 7,000
meters - easy fix the target. The flight range of the missile is more than 10
kilometers."
"At what distance does
this missile explode? Can it hit a target and then explode?
"It can, depending on the
modification. It can literally fly into the body and it can also explode at a
distance of 500 meters."
"We worked at the crash
site of the Boeing and noticed that fragments hit the body of the aircraft in a
very concentrated way. It looked like it exploded just two meters away from the
Boeing."
"There is such a missile,
it explodes like shrapnel."
"Ukraine stated that they
had no sorties that day. We checked various sources on the downed aircraft.
Ukraine denies that its warplanes were flying that day."
"I know about it. Ukraine
also said that those two aircraft were shot down on December 16, not on December
17. They repeatedly changed the date. But in fact, sorties would be conducted
daily. I saw it myself. There were sorties made even during the time of the
truce, however, less often."
"What weapons were there
on the aircraft at your airport? Were phosphorous bombs used or incendiary
mixtures? The Ukrainian artillery was using them actively on the ground."
"I did not see
phosphorous bombs. They used volume-detonating bombs, though."
"Are they banned?"
"Yes, they are. The bomb
was designed for Afghanistan. It was banned under some convention, I do not
remember exactly which one. The bomb scorches everything out."
"Were they mounted on aircraft
and then used in combat action?"
"Yes. There were also
banned cluster bombs. An aviation cluster bomb, depending on the size, can
strike very large targets. To completely destroy a stadium, one bomb is
enough."
"Why were they using such
weapons?"
"They were following
orders. Whose orders exactly remains unclear."
"Was the main purpose of
such weapons - intimidation?"
"No - maximum destruction
of manpower."
"Why did you go to Russia
and decide to tell us about it? You're not the only witness!"
"The Security Service of
Ukraine and the National Guard of Ukraine intimidated all. People can be beaten
for every careless word, or jailed for any insignificant suspicion of being
sympathetic to Russia or to the militia. I was against the "anti-terrorist
operation" from the start. I do not agree with the policy of the Ukrainian
administration. A civil war is a wrong way to go. Killing your own people is
not normal. I do not want to stay in Ukraine to be involved in all that."
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